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Death Penalty
Topic Started: Jun 24 2009, 09:42 PM (148 Views)
BarkAtTheMoon
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This isn't really an issue for some people, but for a while there was a big controversy in some states about having the death penalty removed from the law books as a legitimate means of sentencing a convict. The question wasn't whether they deserved to die; it was on whether the state had the right to sanction the taking of another human life.

Now many people say that the death penalty is nothing but government-sanctioned murder. And it is, but the idea that the government doesn't have the right to get rid of horrific offenders such as mass murderers, serial killers, rapists, and terrorists is ridiculous.

Let me put it to you this way: if a person killed your brother or your sister or your spouse or you child, it would only be human instinct to want to do the same thing or worse to that person. Execution is the same thing. The state considers the death of a human being a loss of a person of value regardless of what that person is. The state therefore takes that person and has them executed.

Y'know, there's a plea a person can enter in court that claims that even though a murder was premeditated and executed that it was still done in the heat of passion because the actions of the victim had wronged the accused so horribly. And not surprisingly, when a person enters this plea, it usually goes through. Whether it gets through a jury, though, is another story. The point is that it would make sense that a person would kill in anger because of the actions of others. Killing another human being close to a person, sodomizing a child who is close to the person, or initiating an act of violence that ultimately will result in the death of more people than can be imagined is not as simple as someone yelling at the person or cussing them out. Provocation or not at that instant, the fact is that a person is generally really fucked up when something of that nature occurs and is going to be pissed off at the person who did it.

And, y'know what, guys; the prison system in this country is clogged as it is and no amount of construction-drainO can save it. Taking a person who is going to get life in prison without the possibility for parole and placing them in a cell until they're dead is only taking up the space that could be occupied by a person who actually could come out of the prison at least slightly less of an idiot.

Anyway, those are just my opinions. I'm curious about yours though, people. Please. If you agree with me then you agree with me. If not then, hey. Try and change my mind.
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PhoenixoKaZe
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either way, ppl can die, period lol
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Xavi
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in all honesty, i dont believe in our current prison system and death penalty laws.

this'll be a farfetched answer but..

i STILL feel that prison systems should abandon money,time, whatever wasted on execution and keeping people locked up in prison, and more time educating and giving those in mates proper psychotherapy or something along those lines.

and here's an interesting article i came about a long while ago:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_n17_v91/ai_19239950/

thats right.we're getting to a point no where we're starting to spend more government money on prisons than education itself.

i believe that we should focus on helping the prison inmates to correct whatever psychological fallacy they might have properly,and send them back into our society.

this isnt to say im not aware of how much money it would take to do that,but in the long run im sure as we empty out prisons and help make society a little safer,itll eventually begin to work.

...shame we like to play god and judge,every man deserves another chance.
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Dragon Master
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I see nothing wrong with the Death Penalty. If a person did something to get the Death Penalty then that person must have done something horrible.
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Kinko

I do believe in using the Death Penalty, and I only wish it was used more. I think we are WAY too easy on criminals and that is why they become repeat offenders. I mean, honestly, how many are actually so scared of going back to prison, they would actually change their ways and obey laws? VERY FEW! Why? Because most live better lives inside prison than they do in their homes. Cable T.V., visitation, exercise equipment, plenty of food, movies, books, internet, etc...There are so many people that work so hard and barely make enough to pay their bills, let alone have anything for extras. So the good people of the USA that go to their jobs, and live respectable lives, and pay their taxes, we are left to pick up the tab for the ones that cannot handle this responsibility. So even after they are done serving their time, they get out and return to the lifestyle that got them into this situation in the first place. I don't think absolutely everyone should get the death penalty, no matter the crime. I think if you kill someone, we get to kill you back (thanks RON WHITE! LOL) I think child molesters should definitely get the death penalty. They should NEVER get the chance to go out and corrupt another child. I say this knowing full well that this would include my own BIL and that's OK. It makes me sick to my stomach to think what people do to each other and can go on with no regrets. I do think there should be certain protocols to follow, such as 100% proof postive that said person committed the crime, and the circumstances surrounding the crime. But I think it would definitely make soon-to-be offenders stop and think about the things they did before it happened.
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BarkAtTheMoon
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Y'know, after a long and hard contemplation, I will freely admit now that my opinion on the death penalty has changed dramatically. I no longer feel that it is appropriate as a punishment for any crime. I looked at a recent statistic and as it turns out, the vast majority of prison inmates are in because of quote on quote drug crimes. That is what's clogging the prison system, not murderers or rapists. And even if that was the case, I now feel that it would still not be an appropriate punishment because that is essentially state-sanctioned killing which is not acceptable in my opinion because that opens the floodgates for a whole other stream of government sanctioned injustices.

So as of now I am freely admitting that my opinion on the subject has been changed.

Off on a tangent, I have noticed that activity in the Debate section has ground to a halt. People need to post more responses, seriously. I would love to hear more opinions on things.
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TheBlackCrow
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I don't see anything wrong with doing away with dangerous criminals. The death penalty seems fair to me.
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